Hearing everyone blaming everyone else for the riots that are happening through the UK.
Only one comment have have heard (for me) hits the nail on the head ... Kids doing it think the world owes them something, and if they cannot have it they just take it!
Having worked with young offenders too many will not take responsibility for their own actions, and do not understand that actions have consequences.
My heart goes out to all those affected by what's going on at the moment, I hope with every bone in my body they all stay safe.
Also think that they should bring in the army to back up the police and whatever force that is needed to stop them should be used, but that's just my opinion :-)
Shell, All this talk on facebook and elsewhere of 'Just shhot the f****ers', 'send in the troops' etc. is all very well, but what happens if we use violence against our own people?
America and Britain (oh yeah thats us) will invade our country, help the insurgents, topple the government, replace it with one of thier own choosing, and leave the country a lot worse off than it ever was!!!!
How about, we bring our forces home from all the countries where we have no business interfering, saving us BILLIONS, then instead of cutting the police, nhs etc. budgets, we could provide them with the resources they need to combat this tide of brainless violence?
Just a thought.
2 generations failed by society and the goverment . The jobs for these people are long gone ,manufacturing is small scale and mostly robotic . So we tried giving everyone a degree ,this made degrees cheap and worthless . Hope offered and then removed by those who start life further up the power ladder . One working mother with 2 jobs bringing up 3 kids in poverty sounds medevil but it is happening now .Kids who at ages below 9yo already know more about despair and fear than hope and ambition .The numbers of apathetic little to hope for people will keep growing as capitalisim grinds and beats on towards it enevitable end . Numbers of police falling as the middle classes > demand action on goverment spending without raising taxes .The well fed comfortably homed 5 a day sections of society labels them feral packs of dogs in a futile attempt to justify just shooting a group of kids that are nothing more than a product of a childish selfish society that offers little hope to the underprivilaged . Poverty is not a trap you just walk out of .
One working mother with 2 jobs bringing up 3 kids in poverty sounds medevil but it is happening now .
My mother was left a single parent when my older brother was 11, I was 9 and my youger brother 6. . . . She had a full time job, Saturday and Sunday worked in a show home for a new development, 3 night a week behind the bar at a pub.
By Her example, we all grew up realising that if you want something in this life, you earn it.
What sort of example have these rioters been given where if you want something, you just have to threaten, burn, steal, destroy, and take what you want from other people?
Poverty is not a trap you just walk out of .
It may be an uphill walk, but its always possible if you are willing to try!!
Poverty is not an excuse to cause your local community and other normal everyday folk fear and chaos.
I'm a single parent who has had to work frickin hard to achieve everything i have including working 2 jobs. I pay my own mortgage and bills and am helping fund my son through med school, who i may add grew up with the bare essentials but has still managed to make something of himself and not sit in a croner whinging that life has been hard.
Am at present sitting here waiting to get a phone call from him to say he has managed to get home from the hospital he is working at as he has to come through city centre and the pack of morons now maurading round it.
All I am saying is if there is rioting in your society ,some thing is wrong with your society . If we start using violence from the state powers against our own pople where does this leave us compared to others ? I look up the ladder not down when society has a problem .
More looting today. Many shops and businesses closed.
This rioting is not about lack of jobs. There is always something you can do apart from theft. If these people can't get a job (which I don't believe), they should be more enterprising other than looting. When I had no work I went out and did anything to earn money however demeaning it was and for whatever I could get paid. I know many people similar to me. It is about pride, respect for yourself and the community. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I don’t know about other cities in the UK but in London there is a high crime rate. Mugging is a favourite pass time. These people who carry out these crimes are not going without and they aren't necessarily unemployed but if they can get more for nothing they will get it and they will take it from you, without regard to your wellbeing. They will kill you for your phone and think nothing of it. I have lost count of the number of times my sons have been mugged. Since living in London my views are changing. It makes me angry that these people can change my outlook to something that I don't want to be. Something drastic has to be done. <o:p></o:p>
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<o:p>I believe it does generally go back to parenting. Good parents, good kids. Bad parents usually bad kids!</o:p>
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Jackie, hope you hear from your lad soon, but I have just got in and the traffic is building up mainly because people have been advised to vacate the city and surrounding areas.
I will also add that there are, as you would expect lots of rumours flying about. I didn't see any crowds of youths or any police on my journey.
My mate called his mrs an hour or so ago to say there was trouble brewing in Wolverhampton at yates wine bar, and asda. Police helicopter overhead, and on his way out lots of police vans going in.
But as he followed it up with a joke about waiting round to see if they set fire to the molineux we not sure if he was joking!
Just had text from my son saying he is on local train home phew !!!
Cheers Trish lady most appreciated, i'm one of th elucky ones i only live 10 mins away and opposite direction to city centre.
Have heard from a friend who works in Bearwood to say that there is a gang marauding down the high street as i type and a lady who works alongside me has said that her sister works at TOuchwood in Solihull and that has now been closed and evacuated :(
You did used to be able to go out and get a job easily , nice little cash earner that if you proved your worth, you would eventually get on the books and be legal . These jobs are much fewer now . These days its minimum wage rather than cash without deductions . An empolyer could pay you a bit more if it was cash on the side . Goverment don't like that though goverment wants you to get your job with form filling and hoop jumping so they can add you to a statistic of some sort that makes them look good .
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