omg what is the world coning too ive just rememberd that bike magizine did an atical on somthing about this mad inventions will they work and stabelisers where there too along with
speed limiters
anti T bone running lights
telescopic mirrors
preload sensor
dive sensitive main beem
frugal fuel mapping
clip on winter bodywork
writing on rusksack
Standstill stabilizers ( as they called them)
easy control adjusters
page 94 dec bike mag
... speaking as a little lady who loves riding her own bike as well as pilly RK.....................I agree yes it is ridiculous.............in fact through it was either drivel or a wind up lmao!!! (and Im not swinging me handbag either lol!)..............all riders (male or female) should stick to bikes they can both reach the ground on and handle in the name of safety .............especially theirs but also everyone else's. To be on a bike you cant do either on is just plain stupid, dangerous and definately not enjoyable..............you're so vulnerable up there you definately cant be confident let alone competent!
Ok RK, I accept that your post/s were done in humour and I can accept that the idea of a bike (any size of bike) trundling down the road with stablizers like those on a childs bicycle would seem ridiculous.
However the original post asked about them as an aid to learning and was scoffed at by more than one person in what appeared to be all seriousness.
fwiw : one of the shortest guys I know, rides a BMW GS Adventure.
Have no idea how he even gets one foot down, but he hasn't dropped it yet. Or hadn't.
BH, whilst I respect your right to express your opinion, I'd ask you take a look at one of our members, Sumodwarf riding his bike and tell me he is dangerous and incompetent.
However he does fall into the strong and probably oodles of natural talent brackets or perhaps he's learned his skill.
Good debate though and for the most part, not degenerated into mudslinging.
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I've ridden with sumo and although he does a fozberry flop to get on, he can still reach the ground once he's in the saddle at junctions etc or he'd simply topple off!
If you'd seen him load up with a full shopping trolley of beer then leave me for dust down the twisties in the wet he deffo knows his craft
Riding a bike thats too big for you is like buying a car thats too big to reach the pedals and that would be blind stupidity. Would you drive in platform shoes to compensate or buy a smaller car in the first place I wonder??
Aye, but like Geoff (and possibly more so) it's only one toe on the ground at a time and perhaps half an arse cheek off the seat too (this is how some very small ladies I know on other forums manage).
In my case, I can get both feet down and usually always one foot flat but I still have toppled off when coming to a stop even on my 125 and they don't come much lighter unless we're talking peds etc.
Interesting point about the car. My Mum was tiny, 4' 10" ish and struggled with pedals in cars. Didn't really matter if she was driving the sierra, montego or the saxo, she still had to pull the seat as close the wheel as it would go (always letting it back to get out!) and her heels never touched the floor, always hovering on the pedals. I used to wonder how she did it because the strain on her legs must have been immense but she managed because we learn to.
Oh..and I have platform bike boots!
yep interesting debate but I also said "reach the ground and be able to handle the bike".............Sumo can obviously handle his bike despite his size he is an experienced skilled rider and has the strength behind him, unlike alot of us ladies! We also learn, with experience, to adapt what we have in terms of size and strength to handle our bikes and adapt our own style accordingly. You learn what you like and have a preference for too.....hence my progression from a Ducati (which after full lowering job I still struggled to reach the ground on) to a Harley Low, which gave me lots of confidence cos feet firmly touched the ground but was still a heavy bike, to a jap cruiser now........still low so can still reach the ground, bigger yet lighter so easier for me to handle and more tank capacity so designed for longer distance. I always thought trikes were designed for riders when 2 wheels became difficult either through age or disability..........still providing the riding experience but safer when rider balance not so good.................this then leaves the question as to why a bike with stabilisers is needed too??............or am I missing something here????
Oops!
*wonders if she can sweet talk her fave mod into deleting this and the previous 2 posts*
So...*cough*...the practicalities of different thickness of soles regarding road safety. Well my boots are made by Daytona and are.....
not sure about this, memory not as good with the old age,,,,,but years ago, approx 30yrs, I seem to remember a flaw in the law where you could fit something called a sidewinder onto a bigger bike and ride it on L plates, very similar to one stabilizer?????
does anyone remember these or have i had too much to drink????
...as I said Roachy.........each to their own, we all develop our own styles and ways of handling our bikes despite size, strength, sex etc..........Im a bit of a Bridget Jones in those things, stuggle to walk in em whatever they're made of let alone ride in em so would be down right dangerous for me and I know that.....................I dont need to sweet talk anyone..........mods or otherwise and I was one for long enough.........just got my own opinion and point of view and happy to post it and let others do the same.......makes for intersting posts that we all learn something from......................respect your point of view too, thanks!...just different from mine that all
The 2 posts above mine I was referring to were the other one of mine and then RK's talking about kinky boots but you posted just before my reply.
For clarification, my bike boots are just that, proper bike boots but have a hidden built up sole. Slightly thicker at the toe and a wedge heel and from the outside look normal bike boots. Even though there is a wedge heel it doesn't feel like heels due to all the support in them and it gives you the advantage of having your heels making contact with the ground, even though you are still mostly weight bearing on your balls (of feet!). I don't do proper heels, that's why the aforementioned *kinky* boots only have a kitten heel, I'd break my neck in anything higher! Leg strength and balance aren't my best features.
You're right about developing our own styles and I'm very much still doing this, given that I've been riding for less than a year. Perhaps after a few years if I'm still toppling off I'll decide a sportsbike just isn't for me and I'll try something else.
The stablizers mentioned originally were as a learning aid and I think they could really help someone gain confidence when first on a bike. Even if you have balance from riding a pushbike, there is so much to take in when doing a CBT if you've never ridden a geared bike before...or for someone people, never been a road user. My instructor told me stories of some people who simply FORGOT to put their feet down!
As for disabled riders and trikes....maybe they don't want to ride a trike. When looking at the vid Geoff posted I came across an American guy who rode an adapted GSXR with pretty much the same get up as the other guy (but a bit less homemade looking) and this guy was pulling wheelies! Totally amazing but again, probably fell into the oodles of natural talent bracket.
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