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Many years ago whilst travelling round India I found a book,or it found me? The title.... 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. I have tried to read this book numerous times over the years and not been able to understand it. Maybe I was at a wrong time in my life to read such a philosophical novel? Just wondering if anyonelse has read this book or do you struggle to read it like me? Ann-Marie

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missme @ 21/01/2012 11:56  

Read that book many years ago. Can't say it gave me many clues to fixing the A7 I had at the time but it did gave some interesting insights into why people do certain things. Followed it with Jupiter's Travels which was a much easier read

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Gloom @ 21/01/2012 12:05  

Hahaha This is very reassuring...I really struggled with it too when I stumbled across it in the 70s...but kept mum and continued to occasionally drop the title into conversation in a very 'knowing' way over the years Now I'm big enough and brave enough to admit I haven't got a clue what he was on about and I can only remember odd little bits. Maybe I should give it another go? Jupiter's Travels was around much the same time and that left a much greater impression and had much more lasting influence

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Minnie the Minx @ 21/01/2012 12:07  

Ah Minnie...glad someone else stuggles, this is deffo reassuring .....maybe its a girl thing ... I think you should give it another go I have never got round to reading Jupiters Travels Gloom, but thankyou for the reminder, I will find a copy Ann-Marie x

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missme @ 21/01/2012 12:16  

A HA I have found jupiters travels on my all new 'kindle'.....yes i have dragged myself kicking and screaming into 21 century reading......Yes even me an avid book sniffer, reading off a kindle Gloom I have also found a book for you ... 'Dreaming of Jupiter-In search of the world 30yrs on' Ted simon now in his 70s, still on a bike retracing his 70s trip on a Triumph.... Well thats me 'booked up' for a while Ann-Marie

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missme @ 21/01/2012 12:27  

Jupiter's travels is well worth the read and he repeated the trip at the age of 70 back in 2001. So there is still hope for us all to just get on the bike and do that trip we've always promised ourselves.

Thanks for posting the topic missme, it's made me remember things I've been to busy with life to think about for several years.

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Gloom @ 21/01/2012 12:29  

@ gloom x

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missme @ 21/01/2012 12:45  

A strange book. In its introduction, Robert Pirsig explains that, despite its title, "it should in no way be associated with that great body of factual information relating to orthodox Bhuddist practice. It's not very factual on motorcycles, either. Persig describes the approach to life of his friend John Sutherland, who chooses not to learn how to maintain his expensive new motorcycle - he simply hopes for the best with his bike, and when problems do occur he often becomes frustrated, and is forced to rely on professional mechanics to repair it. In contrast, Persig has an older motorcycle which he is usually able to diagnose and repair himself through problem solving skills and presumably the fact that he maintains it himself, therefore knowing it intimately. In other words, DIY saves you a fortune ! ... wiki is back working hehe

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chris.sheridan @ 21/01/2012 13:03  

Discovered said book back in my days and thoroughly enjoyed every syllable of it. I think you should take the journey of reading it again Missme, perhaps you are in a different place now and will relate more to it's metaphorical mayhem. Thank you for the reminder, i think that i too will get another copy and reread it again myself. Best regards and warm wishes... ..icey

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iceybusa @ 21/01/2012 14:28  

It would appear that ZAMM is available as a downloadable pdf or a podcast

http://www.bartneck.de/projects/research/pirsig/

Time to read it again :)

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Gloom @ 21/01/2012 15:08  

Opened this thread not really knowing what to expect and ended up placing an order with Amazon , this is one of those books I "should" have read years ago but didn't, thanks for the reminder.

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WelshAL @ 21/01/2012 15:19  

Aw..nice to see Ihave took some people back down memory lane Icy....I think you are right, I am older and wiser now, maybe right time to give it another go.....would like to read it in a hut on stilts in the maldives with a ladder leading down to the water Jonathan Livingston's "Seagull" "Illusions" and "The adventures of a reluctant Messiah"........books to be revisited Right let me book a holiday somewhere exotic Ann-Marie x

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missme @ 21/01/2012 16:38  

Woo Hoo You really got us going missme! How about a revisit to the "Electric Cool-Aid Acid Test" and the "Doors of Perception"? .....got to be better than Doc Martin and celebrity Big Brother on tv on a boring saturday night

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Minnie the Minx @ 21/01/2012 21:00  

Wow Minnie. .....I have to fess up that I had not heard of those titles, just looked them up......Good Lord they sound out of my league of comprehension

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missme @ 21/01/2012 22:20  

[quote] Icy....I think you are right, I am older and wiser now, maybe right time to give it another go.....would like to read it in a hut on stilts in the maldives with a ladder leading down to the water [/quote] Sounds like a positively perfect way of enjoying a good read, no distractions, just mother nature suckling her life around you. Another book i enjoyed (although a lot shorter and less intense that Zen)..'enjoyed' is perhaps the wrong word..it warmed my spirit... ..is 'the five people you meet in heaven' by mitch albom. A must if you're a sentimental old fool like myself. Happy reading and mental journey my friend (which ever books you re or reread)... ..icey

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iceybusa @ 21/01/2012 22:42  

Aw, thankyou for the suggestion icey, its great to meet like minded folk mentally (one day physically), minnie and gloom too And may I offer a sincere & warm welcome to our book club Ann-Marie, alias missme x (founder and president of Missme'smustread Book Club)

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missme @ 21/01/2012 23:07  

"Electric Cool-Aid Acid Test"

Blimey, Minnie, there's a blast from the past


I haven't read Zen... , maybe I should now being older, not so much wiser, but now in possession of my own bike




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HippyRockChick @ 21/01/2012 23:18  

Right, you lot !! Only read one from above list, so had better get onto amazon (unless you still got copies hanging around Min???!!)




Book club??? Nooooo..please lets not start asking "profound" questions!!


Book list ?? that's more like it


Thanks missme for the nudges

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Alice2 @ 21/01/2012 23:40  

Alice, you're right on there.
I don't do "analysing" that's far too intellectual for me. I just go by if I like it or not, and sometimes I like things even if I don't understand them
(and I'm talking about books not men although I don't think I'll ever understand men )




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HippyRockChick @ 21/01/2012 23:44  

Yes, well you already know there's a touch of the old hippy rock chick about me HRC Not sure about ZATAMM but would definitely recommend Jupiter's travels if you haven't encountered it already...a faboulous & inspirational book I'll have to buy another copy....I failed to win custody in the great divide of the marital spoils...along with the Grateful Dead albums

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Minnie the Minx @ 21/01/2012 23:45  

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